SUMMER REPLAY: Mastermind It: 4 Ways to Win with Friends

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[00:00:00] Joel: While we’re on hiatus, we’re not just shuffling the archive. We went through everything, like scoured it. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen like those card catalogs they use to keep in libraries. Well, that’s actually how we keep all the episodes of Focus on This, and you should have seen Marissa and I pulling out the drawers and like rifling through, finger, finger, finger, thumb, thumb, thumb, all the way through every one of those cards, and we found all the best episodes.

[00:00:31] Marissa: Yeah, and we really asked ourselves the question, which episodes would we want every listener to have heard? And that’s exactly the criteria that we used in these episodes. These are our very best. Some of them are past host of, what do they say, the ghost of-

[00:00:48] Joel: Christmas past …

[00:00:49] Marissa: past. This is like the- Yeah … the host of podcast past.

[00:00:53] Okay? Yeah. But we hope that you really enjoy these, and we think that you will. We think these are gonna be super relevant and super helpful, even though they weren’t recorded last week.

[00:01:04] Joel: The truth is, it was a challenge to narrow these suckers down, ’cause the archive is vast. I mean, the truth is, just like that library catalog, the, the card catalog at the library, it was like thousands upon thousands of millions of episodes.

[00:01:17] I might be overstating it, but a lot of episodes. And what that meant was we had to find the best of the best, and this is one of the ones that made the cut.

[00:01:26] Marissa: So go ahead and hit play and enjoy.

[00:01:35] Verbs: All right, guys. So, uh, we’ve said this before on the podcast, but it’s important for folks to know, especially at the beginning of the year, that it is critical that you do not try to make this journey alone. I know a lot of people who might be new at goal frameworking tend to feel a little bit isolated.

[00:01:52] They feel like they’re, they might be the only ones in their, in their circles that are really trying to pursue this goal achievement or certain goals this year. But have either one of you, um, either been at that point to where you just kind of felt stuck because you didn’t-

[00:02:07] Courtney: I’m sorry. I’m already laughing because I just remembered when I started, like really, it- I was doing, I was riding Peloton, and I kept like talking about these rides and my goals, and like nobody cared.

[00:02:21] Like- … nobody cares about your Peloton rides. It’s like, “Eh.”

[00:02:26] Blake: Guilty. “

[00:02:27] Verbs: Okay. Ride along, ride along.”

[00:02:30] Blake: Tell me more.

[00:02:31] Courtney: You’re

[00:02:31] Blake: on a bike going nowhere. Tell me more about the, about

[00:02:33] Courtney: the,

[00:02:34] Blake: tell me more about the TV screen you looked at.

[00:02:39] Courtney: I mean, don’t you want to hear about, uh, Matt Wilbur’s my favorite coach? No, you don’t.

[00:02:45] Blake: You’re laughing, you’re laughing on the outside. Are you crying on the inside ’cause you felt alone?

[00:02:49] Courtney: No. I- listen, this is for real. I did… When I started doing it, I was like, “Nobody really cares about these, like, awesome achievements I’m having.” But then I found a community of other people that were as invested and crazy about it as I was, and then they l- you know, it was like they do- Boom … care about that really hard ride that we all rode, and they’re like, “Yes, that last five minutes was terrible.”

[00:03:09] But, like, nobody else in the world would. It was like I had to find those people. But until then it’s just like you’re that annoying person that nobody really wants to talk to you.

[00:03:21] Verbs: But Blake, w- so what about you? Have you ever got to the point where you just felt alone in this whole pursuit of-

[00:03:25] Blake: Yeah, but that was-

[00:03:26] getting your goals achieved? … only for my first 34 years of life, so not that, not that much. I almost always would pursue things alone, take, taking that route, and last year I was really intentional to meet with a couple people, and it, it wasn’t e- even super formal, but especially in the first quarter I felt like it was massive because I didn’t know what I was missing.

[00:03:59] I always sort of just… It wasn’t like, oh, should I work with someone on my goal or should I not? I didn’t even j- have that c- my personality type. Like, I just didn’t even have that conversation. Like, I would share stuff with my wife obviously and we’d have goals that we’d collaborate on, but I didn’t know what I was missing.

[00:04:14] I, what I recognized was working with somebody else gives you so much more clarity. Not even working with somebody else, just talking out loud and connecting- Mm … on your goal with someone else gives you- Sure … so much more clarity. It’s, it, I liken it to when I was 15 years old and I went to the eye doctor and they said, “Hey Blake, you need glasses,” and I got contact lenses.

[00:04:39] And I remember my mom was driving the car and I was rolling along and I was like wait a second, you can, like, read the street signs, like, before you’ve already kind of passed them? That’s what it’s like bringing someone in and processing your goals, is like you didn’t know what you didn’t know. You didn’t know that you were, had poor vision until you get that clarity.

[00:05:03] Verbs: So today we’re going to talk about how having companions for four activities can influence your journey toward a successful outcome.

[00:05:16] Welcome to another episode of Focus On This, the most productive podcast on the internet, so you can banish distractions, get the right stuff done, and finally start loving Mondays. I’m Verbs, here with Courtney Baker and Blake Stratton. Happy Monday to you both.

[00:05:32] Blake: Happy Monday to you, Verbs, and also unto you, Courtney.

[00:05:38] Courtney: Happy Monday. Thank you, sir.

[00:05:40] Verbs: Happy Monday. So guys, if we can get into it and start talking about these activities that, that people can engage with with others just to get better outcomes and really an overall better experience in their goal achievement journey What would be the first activity?

[00:05:55] Blake: The first activity is the weekly preview.

[00:05:58] And if you’re like me, this may come as a surprise because I just default to, of course, it’s in my planner, it’s in my little notebook. Of course, I’m doing it by myself. All these questions are for me. But it’s actually really helpful to engage with this with another person. I first ventured out into doing this one, one of our, uh, teammates here at Michael Hyatt and Company said, “Oh, you know, every week I’ve…

[00:06:23] My wife and I, we go out to lunch and we do our weekly preview, and it’s really helpful to just sort of cover the bases of all our logistics and understand where the other person is at.” And so that was kind of my first foray into that. And then I know we have people who are in our community who have found a lot of help just connecting with other Full Focus Planner users doing this.

[00:06:45] But there’s a lot of benefits to, I don’t know, the scary part was the vulnerability of like, oh, well, here was this, or I did this. But there’s a lot of benefits to doing a weekly preview with somebody else. Have you guys ever done this?

[00:06:59] Courtney: Yes. I, I have done this, and I do think it’s really, it’s really helpful.

[00:07:03] I think there is certainly, you know, if you, um, you know, it’s probably with a, a spouse or a partner or, you know, there’s like a logistical thing that’s really helpful with the weekly preview. But I think there’s also another side of this coin that is doing it with another person that’s gonna help you examine your thinking about your work.

[00:07:27] You know, the weekly preview, again, if, if we look at it as like, it’s really the most productive thing I do every week. It’s the time that I set aside to really think about my work. That’s productivity. And so if I, if I allow somebody into that journey with me that is, you know, allowed to, you know, when I share like what worked or what didn’t work or, um, you know, what my wins were, that’s able to kind of say, “Oh, well, you said this thing.

[00:07:57] It sounds like you’re thinking about it this way.” It can totally give me a new perspective on, on my week, on, on how I’m doing, um, in processing the past and moving forward. Oh, yeah, processing. And I think that’s a, a different side of the coin that is really powerful.

[00:08:17] Verbs: Yeah, I think that’s right, Courtney. I actually have never thought about that side of the coin, ’cause most of the time it is more like an informational, informative session that I may do with my wife as she does hers as well.

[00:08:28] But yeah, just, you know, inviting somebody in to process along with you so you can kind of get outside of your own thinking is, is, is crucial as well.

[00:08:37] Blake: I, I encourage you, if you’ve never done the weekly preview with somebody else, give it a shot. Maybe try it as an experiment, but then put it on the calendar for both of you, a- and you’ll end up with, uh, a more consistent rhythm, especially if you’ve struggled to do your own weekly preview thoroughly or complete it.

[00:08:53] Doing it with somebody else will help

[00:09:00] The second activity is an ideal week review. An ideal week review. This, uh, is something personally, I, I don’t know if I’ve done this outside of just my wife looking at my ideal week and sort of hashing it out with me. But Courtney, I’m wondering if you have experience with this- Yeah … because I know that you’ve worked with assistants and, and that sort of thing and, and you ha- you lead a team.

[00:09:29] How does someone open themselves up, I guess, to a review of their ideal week, or what does that even look like?

[00:09:35] Courtney: Yeah, I mean, I, I’ve done this, um, most commonly with my assistant, and it has always been, you know, part of our quarterly, um, preview process, and it’s always been really great. One, it just kind of puts us on the same page.

[00:09:52] Um, it also really equips them to have the context they need with scheduling, and it, it… To me, it’s, like, hard to be successful, especially when you’re running somebody else’s calendar, if you have no idea what you’re shooting for. You know, like, how am I supposed to be- Right … successful at this? Yeah. So I highly recommend this if you work with an assistant, but I’ve also done this in another context that was helpful as well.

[00:10:18] Um, at the time, when I, I did this with my assistant, um, but then after I kinda mapped it out, I ki- I showed it to the person that was my boss at the time, and we kinda overlaid both of ours together and looked at those in combination, and that was a really helpful exercise as well. Um, obviously, there are times where your boss, if their ideal, they have, if they have an ideal week, you know, there may be things on their ideal week that conflict with yours, and so you kinda need to bring those into alignment.

[00:10:50] Um, so that wasn’t necessarily getting into, like, the nitty-gritty of, like, every hour, but we did it separately and then- Right … came together to kinda look at them cohesively. Also, a really great practice because I noticed things in his weekly preview that I was like, “Oh, I didn’t even think about that thing.

[00:11:08] I can’t believe… Yeah, I should allocate time for that.” Um, I think that would be really helpful

[00:11:15] Blake: What sharing your ideal week can do, whether it’s i- in the work context or even in the personal context, is again, coming back to this, bring deeper clarity to what needs to happen for you to achieve what you’re trying to achieve.

[00:11:33] An outside, an outsider’s perspective, the advantage they have is emotional distance from all the activities as well as distance from your perception of your past. And so, “Oh, well, I’ve got to do this here, and I can’t really change this,” or, “I don’t know how I’m supposed to have time to do X, Y, and Z thing.”

[00:11:51] A person can help you, like, like the game of Tetris, kind of fit those pieces together. They don’t… You know, it can be someone you work with. Mm-hmm. It, you know, if you’re like me, it could be your spouse potentially. But even just a friend to be like, “Hey, this is sort of a, a, something I’m trying to do here.”

[00:12:07] They will naturally just ask questions like, “Oh, well, why are you doing this here?” Or, “Why does this have to be here?” Or, “What if you moved it around here?” You’ll get that outside perspective, which will give you clarity and allow you- Yeah … to try on something different, uh, as you’re, as you’re trying to put together your ideal week.

[00:12:24] Courtney: So this past year, we rolled out, um, our Full Focus Planner certification program, and so we now have all of these, um, certified pros that I think would be incredible. Uh, if you’re like, “Yes, I would love this. I would love to have somebody that’s outside of this to just look at it without all of the perceptions, all the files, all the thinking that I bring to this,” you know, reaching out to those people would be really great.

[00:12:55] We have a directory on our site on fullfocus.co that you can see all of our Full Focus Planner certified pros, and you can work with one of them. You know, I recently did this specifically for the Ideal Week. One of our, our clients, who is also a just very good friend, talking about her ideal week, and I was able to ask some questions because I’m an outsider and don’t see all the things she sees that I think were really helpful for her.

[00:13:22] And I think this is something that I’m really excited about having certified pros now to help individuals in contexts, um, like these.

[00:13:31] Verbs: Yeah, and I think if anything, what’s very helpful is they help you, uh, see beyond your blind spots and make sure you’re being accurate and realistic with the time or the time frames that you’re noting down for an ideal week.

[00:13:43] Even though, you know, it may not go ex- exactly the way that you’ve laid it down or mapped it out, um, but having somebody else just speak into, “Hey, you know what? You may be allotting too much time for this activity or not enough time here for rest and, and self-care and those sorts of things.” And they’ll be able to give you that perspective when it’s, you know, something that you might have missed as you built it out.

[00:14:17] Blake: All right, let’s move on to the third activity. We’ve talked about doing a weekly preview with somebody, we’ve talked about having another person review our ideal week and help us out there. Let’s talk about accountability, goal accountability. That’s the third activity. Now, accountability, I don’t know how that word lands with you, Courtney and Virbs, but perhaps for you listening, it feels sort of like a, a heavy word, accountability.

[00:14:45] A, I sort of have a connotation of accountability of, “Hey, y- maybe you’re in trouble,” type of thing. Um- “It’s time to hold you accountable for what you’ve done.” Like,

[00:14:57] Verbs: you’re about to be in trouble.

[00:14:59] Blake: That’s my accountability character. So…

[00:15:04] Verbs: Who is

[00:15:04] Blake: that, by the way? Uh, my name is, uh, Darvin Smarvin. It’s okay. Um, I couldn’t think of one actual name.

[00:15:16] So-

[00:15:17] Nick: My name is Blake’s dad.

[00:15:21] Blake: My name is Daddy Issue.

[00:15:29] So accountability, even if it does feel like a heavy thing, it, it really doesn’t need to. I, I… My perspective on accountability has changed over the years to accountability is that person who’s slapping me on the wrist when I’m not doing the right thing or a good job, to accountability means I’ve shared with someone who I desire to become, or I’ve, I’ve connected with someone who believes in my potential, and when they see opportunity for me to be stepping into that potential, they can let me know.

[00:16:07] They can let me know when I’ve- Yeah … sh- you know, when I’m shrinking backward into the habits or the, the activities or the lack of activities that are taking me down a path that I’ve told them I don’t wanna go down. They’re there to help me stay on the path that they believe I can, uh, can walk as, as well as that I’ve expressed that desire.

[00:16:30] So that’s maybe a little wordy way to, to sh- to express that. But, uh, I, I think- Yeah … that’s key. You know, to- No, that’s

[00:16:38] Verbs: good …

[00:16:39] Blake: it starts, I guess, maybe with just sharing your goal with another person that can believe in it when you’re struggling to believe in it

[00:16:48] Verbs: And that they’ve agreed to be invested in it with you and not just, you know, let me s- Mm-hmm

[00:16:53] let me pick a person-

[00:16:54] Blake: Mm-hmm,

[00:16:54] Verbs: yeah … and tell them. But hey, have that conversation, you know, will you walk, walk this journey, you know, with me? So it’s not, you know, it’s, the accountability person also isn’t the person that you’ve invited in, and then time goes by and now you have to meet with this person and you have to give the report on how, on what you’ve missed and how you failed.

[00:17:14] But like you mentioned, Blake, that person is invested in encouraging you along the way, asking you the right, uh, questions, reminding of you of your motivations behind what you’re doing, and, uh, and, and help you, you know, keep your momentum going forward.

[00:17:27] Blake: Last year my wife and I had a, some financial goals, and we hired, uh, this person, and we actually paid a monthly fee.

[00:17:36] So th- that’s just the way that we structured it, and I really liked that structure because that auto debit from my account, I was like, “Ooh, right. Hey, are we doing what we’re supposed to be doing here? ‘Cause we’re paying for it.” And that was sort of some built-in accountability as well as to, to connect even with that person to hold us accountable, and I felt like that was great because, uh, he heard what we wanted, he heard why we wanted it, and those types of things.

[00:18:02] And I would come to him sometimes with my head just like, “

[00:18:07] Oh, I didn’t do what I said I was gonna do.”

[00:18:09] But this person was actually great at highlighting the progress that I had made in, in comparing it to my starting point. “Oh, Blake, like, do you recognize you’ve, you’ve had a lot of wins. Sure. We need to talk about X, Y, and Z thing where you veered off course.”

[00:18:24] But I think that’s something to look for in an accountability partner is in the real world I’ve personally sometimes struggled with, hey, I’m just gonna ask my, my buddy, you know, and maybe we’ll meet for coffee every now and then. Um, I think that’s good.

[00:18:37] Verbs: Mm-hmm.

[00:18:37] Blake: Um, and I’ve, I’ve enjoyed that from a relational standpoint, but if you wanna get serious, I think it’s okay to pay for accountability, too, with dollars.

[00:18:45] Uh, that’s the, that’s sort of, Yverge used, used the word investment. Like, if you hire someone, guess what? Yeah. They’re invested in your success. Mm-hmm. So if, if you go that route, that’s worked out really well for me, is to just pay someone. It doesn’t have to be a ton of money, but just hire someone to, who can hear you, that’s not struggling with the same issues that you are, that can hold you accountable and keep you on the path.

[00:19:08] Nick: What’s your Venmo, Blake? For this.

[00:19:11] Blake: Yeah, I’ll get that out to everyone and I’ll hold you accountable. I’ll just send you a text every week that says, “Good job,” except for the stuff where it wasn’t a good job. You know what I’m talking about. And then I’ll bill you.

[00:19:23] Courtney: I mean, I think, I think this is a really helpful…

[00:19:25] The, my per- listen, my personality type when it comes to accountability, anything public, like- It’s, it, it is such a force within me to, like, not be publicly, fail publicly, um, that this totally works for my personality. If you’re listening and you are with me, um, you know who you are. Uh, so it is a very powerful tool, um, in your arsenal.

[00:19:53] And so I think wielding it wisely, um, and knowing the power of it, you know, I think especially when it comes to our goals. It’s like, you know, if we think of this time next year and thinking through, like, well, what would it look like if I did accomplish the goals that I’ve set out for? Like, wow, that would be really amazing.

[00:20:13] Then finding that type of accountability to help you get there, I mean, that’s hands down worth it. You know, like, whatever that takes, even if it is a, a really good friend that you’re asking to help you or, you know, you’re, there’s somebody that you’re working with to help you on these goals. Yeah, I, I, I found it very important.

[00:20:33] I, I said I wasn’t gonna talk about Peloton anymore. But one- … one last thing. Do it. Do it. I mean, my Peloton group, we do five rides per week, and guys, I will not miss one of my rides because I know that I’m going to be the one person that doesn’t, so we don’t hit platinum, and we gotta have platinum, y’all.

[00:20:54] Okay?

[00:20:54] Verbs: Hey, you gotta hit

[00:20:55] Courtney: platinum. We gotta, we have to hit platinum. Okay. I mean, guys, I, y’all wanna… Listen, this is how intense this is. I think there’s 73 people in our group right now. There’s, like, thousands and thousands. There’s all these teams. Our team, every single person hit 100% of their rides. 73 people.

[00:21:12] You don’t wanna be the one person that keeps a group of 73 people from hitting their rides. And so that is a- True … that is an… If, if I was just riding the Peloton by myself, just choosing rides whenever I felt like doing it, I would never feel like doing it. But that accountability, it works. I, again, not everybody’s personality type is like mine, but for my personality type, it 100% works.

[00:21:43] Blake: Activity the fourth, focus sessions. Focus sessions. So what we mean by a focus session is simply connecting with another person to spend intentional time focusing. Focusing on a specific project, on a specific task, as a means to boost your productivity. If you struggle with distractions, you know, notifications from your phone, uh, veering off into, uh, down an email pit, a focus session is a great idea.

[00:22:19] All you have to do is, you know, text a friend or a coworker. I mean, this happens a lot, I feel like, in, in Slack. People are jumping in there going, “Hey, who wants to have a focus session at X time?” And you can meet up in person, you know, at a coffee shop if you want, or you could just… I know we’ve had people do this, where we just open Zoom, and it’s everyone’s just kind of working, and it’s like, “All right, guys, here’s the deal.

[00:22:45] Head down, working in focus for just the next hour. Let’s just see how much we can accomplish here.”

[00:22:52] Courtney: Well,

[00:22:53] Blake: and I think- Go ahead, Courtney. Do you do this with your Peloton group? Yeah.

[00:22:55] Courtney: Exactly, yeah. Yeah, for… Yeah. Uh, well, when we open up, usually everybody shares what they’re working on so that at the end- Yeah

[00:23:04] of the session they can share, you know, how far they got towards that. So there’s even that extra accountability of, like, you know, it’s distraction-free time, um, spent doing the thing that you said. ‘Cause again, it’s kinda taking activity three into play as well, as it’s giving a little bit of accountability to, like, knock out what you said you were gonna do.

[00:23:25] Blake: Mm-hmm. And much like a Peloton session, don’t start one of these and go, “Hey, we’re gonna do this for three hours. Head down, no distractions.” People won’t be able to do that. Don’t… You know, you could keep this short. You could even start with 30 minutes if you want, but y- probably not more than, what, an hour, would you say?

[00:23:44] If you’ve never done this before.

[00:23:45] Verbs: I mean, that seems like it’s… An hour’s been a good time to at least get people started. Mm-hmm. Get some accomplishment, you know, done. Let’s say if y- if you have a goal of, you know, writing so many words, uh, this month, and you wanna have an hour to which you sh- where you just put your head down and get it done during that time, you know, you can use that 60 minutes to get it done.

[00:24:05] Or if you felt like, hey, I can go for another session for another 60 minutes- Mm-hmm … you can just do back to back. So those things that you really want intense parameters and focus, uh, just to get it done. If it’s a goal you have attached to some sort of habit, uh, habit goal, then these focus sessions really, uh, are really made for those, really made for that kind of activity.

[00:24:24] Courtney: I will say, I feel like we should give a shout-out to Focusmate. Um, they’re a great platform that does this for you, where they just pair you- Or

[00:24:33] Verbs: Nick … um- Nick is the one that introduced us all- … to this whole situation. Guys, I,

[00:24:37] Nick: I use Focusmate. It’s not… All the time. All the time. I have something like maybe 500 sessions on there Or whatever.

[00:24:44] And maybe once or twice a day when I’m feeling like I can’t get stuff done or dragging, um, I’ll look at my big three and go, “I gotta get this done.” Focusmate to the rescue. So, uh, focusmate.com. Mm-hmm. Go.

[00:24:57] Blake: Forward slash Nick for your affiliate code. Yeah.

[00:25:00] Nick: Or you can just

[00:25:01] Courtney: Venmo

[00:25:02] Nick: me- Yeah … for the referral.

[00:25:05] Courtney: Yeah, it’s a great, it’s a great platform, um, if it seems like a, an easier way to go than trying to like coordinate with, especially if you, you know, you know, you don’t, if you work alone or in really small teams, um, it’s a great platform, um, for this specifically.

[00:25:21] Blake: I like this idea. I don’t honestly do this last activity very much. I, I’ve never used Focusmate, for instance. But what I noticed that I wanna do this year, and I don’t know if it’s ’cause of COVID or just ’cause my personality and, like, being separate, whatever, but sometimes doing the work of your goal can just feel like a grind, and I wanna have more fun.

[00:25:45] And I think that fun is actually a good boost for productivity, a good boost for longevity and consistency, is, like, associating doing the, the, the right things with enjoyment. And I think this would make it more fun, right? Because you’re not … You’re sharing the journey. Even if you’re on separate journeys from the people you’re doing your focus session with in terms of what you’re working on, you’re sharing the journey.

[00:26:09] And I think maybe that’s a theme for the whole topic here today is that when we get out of just isolated mode, not only is it just harder, tougher sledding to go by yourself, less clarity, all that stuff, it’s actually more fun. It, it makes the, the ride more enjoyable and probably makes success more enjoyable.

[00:26:29] I mean, I can only imagine the ecstasy, the utter delight that Courtney will have when her Peloton team reaches platinum status. I mean, we may not see her on the podcast again. She may just be like, “Well,” riding off into the sunset, so much joy- … and gladness in your heart. Is that right, Courtney? You expect that?

[00:26:47] Is it more fun?

[00:26:49] Courtney: Oh, 1000%. Again, it, well, it goes all the way back to, like, normal people don’t care about that harder ride that I was on. And so being able to talk to people that do, like, that is more fun. That’s … It makes it all more enjoyable. And, um, I mean, to that end, like, it, it, it’s building in so many parts of life that make anything more enjoyable.

[00:27:13] I mean, I think connection with other people is, you know, kind of the foundation for an enjoyable life. And so, yeah, I think any way that we can do that is, is positive.

[00:27:26] Verbs: So the good news is you don’t have to feel alone or isolated on your journey to being more productive and reaching your goals. You can go further with your weekly preview, your ideal week, your goals, and in your ability to focus by having friends on the journey with you. Courtney Blake, any final thoughts for our focus on this, listeners?

[00:27:47] Courtney: Yeah, I just wanted to again, um, give a shout-out to our Full Focus Planner certified pros. I think they can help with so many of the things that we talked about today, and so if you’re interested in becoming one yourself or, um, finding a pro to work with you on really the, the items that we talked about today, you can check that out, um, g- becoming one or finding a certified pro in our directory at fullfocus.co.

[00:28:17] Again, I’m really excited about this new group of resources we have.

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